gpatton@bayou.com wrote:
> stuart wrote:
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>>and to others here - why condemn someone for saying what they do, you
>>have zero way of knowing if it's true or not - Think before you
>>ridicule! and at least assume in a christian newsgroup - that the
>>majority (if not all) are honest, as we al should be - or try to be!
>>and ridicule is not one of the ways we should treat anyone - not
>>without knowing the facts.
>
>
> So you think we did not have the facts when we ridiculed his belief
> that he knew more than we did about the afterlife. We actually thought
> we did have enough facts to support our views that his claims were
> baseless. Even if he was serious, and actually thought he had that
> exceptional knowledge of things that no other living human being has,
> there was still no reason for us to not express our views on the
> subject. You must think! Did he post his views to this discussion
> group, to inspire discussion or to be ignored? You don't really make
> much progress toward discouraging ridicule when you ridiculed us for
> having ridiculed him.
>
> By the way, not all post are designed to express a sane opinion, but
> there are some who express an totally ludicrous and ridiculous point
> of view, just to see how many chumps they can snooker. It is no crime
> to ridicule such fiddle-faddle.
Very Good George! And WE do know SOMEONE who has been in
heaven, and HE has given us the true scoop!
What it's like, and how to get there. And this "Please..."
author doesn't know "nutin."
Gary
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The Testimony of Irenaeus
Irenaeus was a contemporary of Justin Martyr. He lived from A.D.
120-202. Polycarp had sent Ponthius into Celtic Gaul at an early date
as an evangelist. Irenaeus joined him and served as an elder, having
been his fellow-pupil under Polycarp.
Irenaeus also understood the nature of the Godhead, and the origin of
the Logos of God. He speaks very clearly of the difference between the
Father and the Son. He also alludes clearly to the supreme plan of God
which He is working out with human beings. Notice some of his
remarkable statements, which the modern churches have lost sight of and
no longer teach, showing how far they have drifted from the original
teachings of the early believers in Christ.
Irenaeus states:
"Since, therefore, the Father is truly Lord, and the Son truly Lord,
the Holy Spirit has fitly designated them by the title of Lord. ..And
this [text following] does declare the same truth: 'Thy throne, O God,
