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Stephen M. Adams wrote:

> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> >> wrf3@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) writes:
> >> >Stephen M. Adams wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> lsenders@hotmail.com writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> >But the other four place you in bed with the RC and with
> >> >> >the Arminian so really, #4 is moot.
> >> >>
> >> >> It was once said that "Arminian" is a Calvinist cuss-word for those
> >> >> who disagree with them....
> >> >
> >> >I notice you didn't answers "lsenders" questions.
> >>
> >> There is no way to answer a straw-man argument directly. Not without
> >> conceding something that we will not concede (because it is not true).
> >> Namely, that we are 'arminian' which we are categorically not.
> >>
> >> Since Loren has created an either/or false dilemma, there is no way
> >> to answer his question directly. When he's willing to admit that
> >> there is a 3rd way, then we can have a fruitful discussion.
> >
> >Or, you could save us the trouble and tell us what this third way is.
>
> See my response to Loren in this thread. And perhaps you should read
> a bit more about the Orthodox Church and Eastern theology. But not
> in texts written by Western apologists who have a real knack at complete
> misrepresentation of our positions, trying to force them into some kind
> of Augustinian/Calvinist mold. The same as goes on here.
>

Which response to Loren? At least provide a message id. And if you're
going to recommend a book, please be specific -- you wouldn't want me to
pick up someone who misrepresents your position.

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matthew_member@newsguy.com wrote:


>> Among the many things you
>>don't know is my philosophical position.
>
> He may not know it exactly, but having been a lost soul wandering in
> predestinarianist darkness for so long, he knows it in general terms.
> You cannot maintain your predestinarian position without sharing
> certain philosophical errors with Calvinists.

1. I am not a "predestinarianist".

2. So I guess this is another classic Matthew double standard.
It's OK for Gary to "read my mind" by infering things about
my position, but it's not OK for me to "read your mind" by
citing what you say about yourself.

Learn to read and think.

Bart

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gkmcnees@comcast.net wrote:

>> So just