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mclemm@verizon.net wrote:
> Jehovah God could accept the value of Jesus' perfect
> life as a ransom for obedient descendants of sinful Adam.
BB asserted that JW's don't believe in salvation by works.
Yet here we have the JW party line and it clearly says that
Jesus' merits apply only to the _obedient_.
Bart
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Mike Rhodes wrote:
> Paul's Argument with Peter,
> Or was it Peter's, and everyone else's, Argument with Paul?
> (It makes a difference. So Paul put it in his terms, as usual.)
> We don't have specifics on the argument(s), but apparently
> circumcision wasn't part of it. He made sure from the start we
knew
> that one was secure. Let's at least say that Peter thought it
minor,
> compared to what ever other argument there might have been. For Paul
> writes as if there was doubt-or maybe uses it as an emotional point
to
> put everyone on their guard, about Peter. Or maybe he was serious.
> The apparent lack of friendship in this meeting is noteworthy, of
> course; though I've never heard it mentioned. If a friendship
> actually existed then Paul could have written about a meeting with
> brothers, and not have to worry about taking "the right hand of
> fellowship." But then Peter could say, since it wasn't true, "that
> isn't true." Paul couldn't write and say that he was given both
hands
> of fellowship. They were divided.
> Peter's use of the word "beloved" concerning Paul in his own
epistle
> cannot be read without some feeling of sarcasm from Peter's
passage.
> Apparently, many were as defensive about Paul then as they are now.
>
> Paul taught Christ's name, and that's a whole lot more than
would've
> been done without the conversion. Not everyone takes Paul as
> seriously as some.
I get the impression that there were a rather strong group of
conservatives in the Jerusalem congregations that thought circumcision
was necessary for male members of the churches and that certain
restrictions required that the uncircumcised and the circumcised not
eat at the same table. Paul disagreed with that. Christians who
thought like Paul on that issue, no doubt would find Mark's gospel to
be quite in line with their thinking. Luke tried to "heal" the
difference between the Jerusalem churches and the Gentile churches. I
think those of the Jerusalem churches, who differed with Paul, would
find Luke-Acts to be a soothing account of the relationship of Paul to
the Christians of Jerusalem. The controversy between the
pro-circumcision Christians of Jerusa