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wrote:

> Bob Felts wrote:
>
> >
> > I am willing to bet that you and I differ on one or more points of
> > doctrine. Does that mean that one (or both) of us are condemned?
> > Where do you draw the line, and what is your Scriptural warrent for
> > where you draw it?
> >
> > The Spirit leads according to His timetable; who are we to judge and,
> > more importantly, how do we judge where the Spirit is or isn't leading
> > in a person's life?
> >
> That's a very fair question, Bob. It is also the root of my point. How
> can one read Rom 14 and not recognize the individual nature of the Church
> Age believer.

That begs the question. Who is my Christian brother? Is BB? Why or
why not?

[...]

> >
> > > Can the Spirit lie?
> >
> > No, but then how do you explain differences between different
> > Christians?
> >
> Rom 14. Rev 2 & 3. That we are individuals. To one particular
> believer they many not have the freedom of conscious to do "A" while
> another believer it maybe nothing to them. Is this not the Pauline
> argument concerning meat offered to idols?

So it's ok for a beliver to not hold to the DoT?

>
> But the brunt of the point actually involves fundamentals of the faith.
> Here there should be no differentiation. And like you, suffering from
> the onset of senility myself, I don't know to whom the quote is
> accredited to but it is wise in its formulation:
>
> In essentials, unity.
> In uncertainties, freedom.
> In all things, love.
>
> Under the economy of the Law, this formulation was not acceptable.


What are the essentials?

> >
> > > This brings us to what Reformed theologians have stated concerning
> > > true faith that it involved "notitia", "assensus," and "fiducia."
> > > Notitia speaks to our point. Faith requires an object. That object
> > > cannot be the object of faith unless it is first known. Pisteuein has
> > > from the beginning required the correct object. To "have no other
> > > gods before you" requires correct understand of what is true and what
> > > is not. After His incarnation, "God with us", after the requirement
> > > of the Spirit (Rom 8:9), it becomes obvious that to have a false view
> > > of who Christ actually is is to not have the testimony of the Spirit,
> > > therefore placing one faith in an idolatrous image.
> > >
> >
> > As I argued in another thread, every single one of us has a false, and
> > therefore idolatrous, image of God. The finite simply cannot
> > correctly comprehend the infinite. Where do you draw the line, and
> > where is your Scriptural w


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